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Breselyer AnDu
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Posted - 2014.02.25 15:43:00 -
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I hate it when they mess with the ships I like. They could have rebalanced by adding new ships, affordable ones! People want more content not nit picking the bits we already have and messing up loadouts. |

Breselyer AnDu
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:11:00 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote:I hate it when they mess with the ships I like. They could have rebalanced by adding new ships, affordable ones! People want more content not nit picking the bits we already have and messing up loadouts. No, I'm pretty sure people want existing content to be balanced. Just because you like flying your OP ship doesn't mean it's fun for others to fly against something that's OP. There is no amount of adding new ships that is going to make something currently OP not OP, and it certainly won't make something that sucks better by association (somehow, magically!)
New ships, if my ship is OP then add new equals. People can vote with their feet (or their isk) buy the new "better balanced" ships or stick to the ones you like. No need to mess with what I fly to be fair to others, just give them something with comparable levels of benefits. |

Breselyer AnDu
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:23:00 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote: New ships, if my ship is OP then add new equals. People can vote with their feet (or their isk) buy the new "better balanced" ships or stick to the ones you like. No need to mess with what I fly to be fair to others, just give them something with comparable levels of benefits.
Which is a poor approach to design. For a start that's power-creep right there. Second it leaves us with a lot of useless ships that no one wants to fly because they don't fit the new higher power-average. Hence, things get rebalanced. Get over it, it's not going to stop happening.
The market would adjust to their relative benefits. The old ships would come down in price giving people a cheaper alternative at a spec cost, the new ships could be balanced along the lines suggested now so no creep unless this rebalance is creep?
Rowells wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote:No need to mess with what I fly to be fair to others That is a very self serving attitude
How is suggesting everyone gets new better ships self serving? |

Breselyer AnDu
Ashab Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:30:00 -
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Rowells wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote:Rowells wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote:No need to mess with what I fly to be fair to others That is a very self serving attitude How is suggesting everyone gets new better ships self serving? Maybe im reading it wrong, but saying fairness to others is less important than messing with something you like doesnt make me think otherwise. But specifically which ship are you talking about, the worm perhaps?
You are reading it wrong. I am quite clearly suggesting fairness through alternate means or I wouldn't have said anything about new ships with equal abilities. Nope I don't have a worm. I do have a Dramiel. |

Breselyer AnDu
Ashab Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:31:00 -
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Cade Windstalker wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote:Cade Windstalker wrote:Breselyer AnDu wrote: New ships, if my ship is OP then add new equals. People can vote with their feet (or their isk) buy the new "better balanced" ships or stick to the ones you like. No need to mess with what I fly to be fair to others, just give them something with comparable levels of benefits.
Which is a poor approach to design. For a start that's power-creep right there. Second it leaves us with a lot of useless ships that no one wants to fly because they don't fit the new higher power-average. Hence, things get rebalanced. Get over it, it's not going to stop happening. The market would adjust to their relative benefits. The old ships would come down in price giving people a cheaper alternative at a spec cost, the new ships could be balanced along the lines suggested now so no creep unless this rebalance is creep? Unlikely, because people would stop farming and producing the lower-spec ships, so the price stays high because supply moved to match demand. Plus, again, that's a lot of un-used game assets, and it's a lot harder to produce entirely new ships than to rebalance existing ones. Again, CCP committed to this almost 2 years ago and it's been well received by the player-base. Re-balancing is always a better solution than power-creep.
The new ships could use the same hulls, no asset issues.
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